My Spider-Man 3 movie-based Bible Study is here, at long last! I have permission from CTI to provide the study here on my site. Over the next few days or weeks, I’ll post the previous combo-study I wrote for Spider-Man 1 and Spider-Man 2 as well.
Warning: the following contains spoilers! Stop now and do not read below this paragraph if you hate knowing anything beyond what the trailers reveal.
Spider-Man 3
The greatest battle lies … within
The first two Spider-Man films established Peter Parker and his super-heroic alter-ego as a popular and profitable theatrical draw: Spidey is loveably unstoppable and Peter Parker is the nice boy everybody wants to see “get the girl.”
But Spider-Man 3 severs those silky threads of comfortable niceness, dumping Peter Parker and Spider-Man into a dark abyss where evil infects the heart and vengeance slakes its thirst.
This guide will help you discuss some of the spiritual themes of Spider-Man 3, focusing on pride, the struggle against sin, and forgiveness. Feel free to use this as a starting-point for discussion and explore any other themes you feel appropriate to your small group.
Movie Summary
In Spider-Man Peter Parker was an excited kid testing his boundaries and learning how to use fantastic powers responsibly and for the good of society. In Spider-Man 2, he was sick with unspoken love and the unbearable burden of using power wisely. Laying aside his suit and mask, Peter Parker became nearly impotent until Mary Jane’s life was threatened and he rediscovers his purpose through sacrifice. As that film closes, Mary Jane at last learns of Parker’s love for her, and his super-hero identity.
As the third chapter in Parker’s life opens, we fully expect to hear wedding bells. Instead, we see Parker still in love but struggling with commitment and insecurity even while a crime-free city celebrates his alter-ego, awarding Spider-Man the key to the city. Parker is trapped in a knotted skein of conceit and self-doubt.
The film starts out romantically enough, with the timeless beauty, Mary Jane, lounging in the center of Parker’s web and still the center of his life. But an ominous falling star is prelude to a venomous creature quietly attaching itself to Parker without his knowledge. The action starts When Harry Osborn, Parker’s best friend and heir to the Norman Osborn legacy (insanity included), attacks the love-struck Parker, nearly killing himself in the process. In short order Parker saves his mortal enemy’s life only to permanently disfigure him later, spurns Mary Jane with a thoughtless bit of grandstanding, learns the true identity of his uncle’s killer, is infected by the evil ooze from outer space, attempts murder himself, and faces a tremendous battle on multiple fronts, both internal and external.
For more coverage of the Spider-Man movies, visit Christianity Today’s Movies Channel:
- Spider-Man (1) Review
- Spider-Man 2 Review
- Spider-Man 3 Review
- Sam Raimi Interview: Spidey Gets Spiritual
- The Passion of Peter Parker
- Spider-Man: Looking into M.J.’s Eyes
- Commentaries: Why We Love Comic Book Movies – Christianity Today Movies
Rated PG-13
Spider-Man 3, trumps its two predecessors both in the numbers of villains and the amount of violence on-screen, earning it a PG-13 rating. While this film may be suitable for teens, parents should screen the film before allowing younger children to view it. There is also some profane language.
If warding off Harry as the new Green Goblin isn’t enough, Spider-Man also has to face Flint Marko, his uncle’s killer, who — by way of the usual freak accident — has become a nebulous shape-shifting whirlwind of sand. When the space-borne symbiote infects Parker, he gains even more power and abilities than he previously enjoyed, but along with the power comes a compulsion to aggression and vengeance that the proud and complacent Parker is unprepared to resist.
As the film concludes, Parker has to find a way to not only resist the symbiote but also to destroy it as when its new host, Eddie Brock, joins league with the Sandman to threaten Mary Jane and destroy Spider-Man for good.
Discussing the Scenes
Select one or more of these themes to discuss:
1. Pride Before the Fall
(Proverbs 11:1-3; Proverbs 16:8; Proverbs 29:23; Psalm 10:4)
The film opens with Peter Parker introducing himself in voiceover, and it’s difficult to ignore the subtext of both pride and lingering insecurity:
“Its me, Peter Parker, ‘Your friendly neighborhood —’ you know. I’ve come a long way from being the boy who was bit by a spider. Back then nothing seemed to go right for me. But now? … People really like me! The city is safe and sound.
“I guess I’ve had something to do with that.
“My uncle Ben would be proud.”
Later, when Mary Jane is struggling over critical reviews and her own insecurities as an actress, Parker offers up less-than-helpful clichês from his own experience as Spider-Man who has — he admits with vanishing humility — “become something of an icon:”
“Listen … this is something that you’re going to have to get used to. Believe me: I know. Spider-Man gets attacked all the time. … You can’t let it bring you down. You just gotta believe in yourself, and you pull yourself together, and you get right back on the horse . …”
Parker’s ultimate fall begins as he infected by evil, surrendering to a hunger for vengeance — and becoming enslaved by it. As the dark symbiote threatens to take over not only his suit but his very soul, he revels in a new-found “bad-boy” persona. We watch the devolution of Peter Parker as he maims his best friend, struts and flirts audaciously, destroys his uncle’s murderer Flint Marko, humiliates his newspaper rival Eddie Brock, and uses his lab partner, Gwen Stacy, to crush Mary Jane’s heart.
Pride is the exaltation of one’s self above all others. As Peter’s arrogance swells, he sees Mary Jane’s plight only in light of his own conceit. And even as M.J. reaches out to him from her own pain, knowing that Parker is giving in to blood lust for Flint Marko, he rejects her help, cutting her off: “Okay. I get it. Thank you, but … I’m fine. I don’t need your help.”
The moment Parker isolates himself in misery, cutting himself off from others, that’s when the symbiote takes over.
- Have you ever found yourself rejecting help for no good reason other than pride? How did you come to recognize the pride? What did you do about it?
- Even though Peter has already wounded her, when Mary Jane learns about Marko being uncle Ben’s true killer, she reaches out to Parker and offers help. How does pride come into play when you are the victim of someone else’s ego? How do you deal with your own wounded pride?
- How does Jesus’ command to offer forgiveness “seventy times seven” times combat pride?
- How do you guard against the effects of pride when helping others who are hurting or who are bound by sinful habits?
- What is the chief danger of doing ministry of any sort with pride in your heart?
- The proud are often unaware of their condition. What proactive steps can you take to avoid and address the sin of pride that may be lurking in your heart?
2. The Battle Within
(Romans 7:14-19; Romans 8:5-17; Romans 12; Philippians 2:1-18; Philippians 4:8-9)
Immediately after learning that Flint Marko killed his uncle Ben, Peter Parker wants justice, but wants it on his terms, in his way, by his own hand. Ultimately, Parker’s desire is not for mere justice but vengeance, which Aunt May describes this way:
“It’s like a poison it can — it can take you over before you know it — turn us into something ugly.”
All sin, vengeance included, is transformative: it corrupts from within, working its way out through our words, actions, and even inaction. When caught or snared in sin, even the believer has a difficult time doing what is right. As Paul describes in Romans 7:18-19:
“I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do — this I keep on doing.”
Read Romans 12.
- If sin corrupts and is transformative, what is the antidote? What attitude and actions are necessary to reverse the corruption and to be transformed the way God wants?
- Do sinful desires themselves cause us to sin, or is there something else at work? Besides a desire or temptation to sin, what is necessary to lead to sin’s bondage?
Leader’s Note: In Romans 7, the key to freedom from sin is to have our minds set on what the Spirit desires. But what does the Spirit desire? Romans 12, says that when our mind is transformed and renewed we will know God’s will — what the Spirit desires. Philippians 2 further promises that as we work out our salvation with the attitude and mind of Christ it is God himself “who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.”
- If the way we think is the key to living either in bondage to sin or as a slave to righteousness, then how should we go about changing our minds? Like Peter Parker / Spider-Man in the movie, how do we throw off the sin that entangles us?
Leader’s Note: Try to guide the discussion toward repentance as a first step, which involves not only recognizing that one’s actions have been sinful, but also involves a permanent rejection of those sins. Subsequent steps would involve worship, prayer, and reading and meditating on Scripture.
Read Philippians 4:8-9.
- Regular spectator sessions in church aren’t enough to change thought-patterns or behavior. Saying a few prayers here and there aren’t enough, reading a daily Bible verse isn’t enough, and neither is hanging out with good, upright Christians. Righteousness doesn’t “rub off.” In light of this, why is Paul’s advice to the Philippians so critical, and so effective?
- How have your thought-habits changed over the years?
- How have these habitual ways of thinking changed your behavior?
- What’s been the hardest pattern to change?
3. Forgiveness and Redemption
(Matthew 6:9-13; Matthew 18:15-35; Luke 7:36-50; Luke 11:2-4; Ephesians 4:29-32)
The primary emotion driving Peter Parker / Spider-Man throughout this film is vengeance. On the surface, Spider-Man is just doing his job: helping to stop crime and fight evil. Even if he felt nothing toward Flint Marko, Spider-Man would still have had to stop the Sandman from theft and mayhem. Even if he had never seen the black, gooey parasite from space, Spider-Man would still have had to stop it in whatever form it took. And even if Parker had not been Harry Osborn’s best friend, he would have still had to deal with Harry’s madness, just as he had to deal with Norman Osborn’s insanity.
But each of these cases it gets personal. Parker has a real hatred toward Marko for having killed his uncle Ben, and he intends to make him pay with his life because “he deserved it.” And the infected Spider-Man taunts Harry with mocking words, goading him into carelessness and justifying a satisfying coup de grace. With Venom, it became personal because Parker not only opposed its new host, Eddie Brock, but he utterly humiliated him, destroying his career and reputation.
Of course, other characters also struggle with forgiveness and old grudges. Harry Osborn is being driven mad in his belief that Peter Parker as Spider-Man killed his father. Eddie Brock cannot bring himself to forgive Parker for revealing his deplorable journalistic ethics. In fact, he prays to God: “It’s Brock, sir. Edward Brock, Junior. I come before you today, humbled and humiliated to ask you for one thing — I want you to kill Peter Parker.” Mary Jane struggles with her humiliation when Spider-Man kisses Gwen Stacy in public — with their kiss! Marko’s wife cannot forgive his sin, and Marko cannot forgive himself.
While all the crossed lines of bitterness and sin don’t get resolved in the storyline, by the end of the film, Peter Parker releases Marko from his debt of guilt, Harry Osborn releases his unfounded bitterness and forgives Parker, and Mary Jane forgives Parker for his actions while under the influence of pride and the poisonous goo.
But the most stunning sequence in the film is when Parker literally tears the black ooze out of his body in the form of the black suit. It is almost a near-perfect metaphor for repentance and redemption as he crouches underneath the cross free of his stain, washed clean by rain from above.
- Much has been made in popular literature of the need to “forgive yourself” before you can forgive others. What do you think of this concept. Is it biblically valid? Why or why not?
- In Matthew, while speaking of forgiveness, Jesus describes our act of forgiveness as both binding and losing things in heaven and on earth. What do you think this means? How does forgiveness — or the withholding of forgiveness bind or release?
In Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4), Jesus gives us a model for prayer. In it, he demonstrates how we ought to pray regarding forgiveness: “Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us.”
- What implications does this part of the Lord’s prayer have for us regarding forgiveness?
- What happens to our ability to pray effectively if we are knowingly harboring grudges? Why does this affect prayers?
- If we are entangled in sin ourselves, what does that do to our own ability to forgive others? What should you do if someone asks you for forgiveness for a sin you commit yourself?
- How does forgiveness provide a release? What kind of release? If someone withholds forgiveness, what doesn’t get released?
- Have you ever sought forgiveness for something and had your request rejected? How did this make you feel, what happened as a result?
- What is the hardest thing for you to imagine forgiving? Why? Is it possible for you to forgive anything, and if so, does that make you weak, or is it a sign of strength?
- Is there a difference between forgiveness and apathy? Or between forgiveness and being “a wallflower?” What’s the difference? How do you know the difference when you see it?
- How do you let go of the anger and hurt when you’ve forgiven someone?
As the Credits Roll:
- Why do the Spider-Man films resonate so much? What made first two films so popular (to the tune of $1.7 billion grossed worldwide)?
- Do you think this third film is consistent with the spiritual themes from the first two movies?
- What encourages you in this film?
- What is hard to swallow philosophically, morally, or theologically?
- What do you think the major characters in this film “learned” by the end of the story? How were they changed by events?
- What do you think about Eddie Brock’s prayer, that God “kill Peter Parker?” Was the venomous ooze depicted as an answer to prayer? Ultimately, Peter Parker was not killed, so how does the storyline change how you perceive that scene?
- At the end of the film, Peter Parker says, in voiceover:
“Whatever comes our way, whatever battle we have raging inside us, we always have a choice. My friend Harry taught me that. He chose to be the best of himself. It’s the choices that make us who we are, and we can always choose to do what’s right.”
What do you think about that? Do our choices make us who we are, or are we revealed by the kind of choices we make? What’s the difference?
Based on:
Spider-Man 3 (Columbia Pictures and Marvel Enterprises, 2007); screenplay by Sam Raimi, Ivan Raimi, and Alvin Sargent; directed by Sam Raimi; based on the Marvel comic book character, Spider-Man, created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. Rated PG-13.
—Study by Rich Tatum, blogger, freelance writer,
and former CTI online media editor.
Copyright © 2007, Christianity Today International, all rights reserved.
Used with permission.
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Great job! I especially like how you draw people in with the movie and then the questions. Your questions were thought provoking and certainly something every Christian should be asking. I appreciate your study and have tucked it away in my file. Hopefully with your permission some day I can use this as a teaching.
Blessings
Cassandra
Thanks, Cass!
You certainly may use this for any discussion or teaching purposes you need!
Rich
Hey thanks for the recommendation. I appreciate it and hopefully my readership will follow through.
A good review is found here http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/05/gospel-in-spider-man-3.html#links
There is NO Gospel in Spiderman 3. It is a blasphemous movie (see venom in the church) that believes in forgiveness of self.
I am sure the movie is well done and entertaining, but it is not Christian and any Biblical Truth that is in it is there only by the eternity in the hearts of men, not by any design.
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As I have said elsewhere here, great job!
Just a comment on the scene with Aunt May, where she advises Peter to forgive himself…
It wasn’t what I was expecting her to say, because for most people, the “hardest thing” is to ask for and to give forgiveness to others. But for Peter Parker, that is not the case.
Anyone who knows the character knows that he owns mistakes (even those he’s not responsible for) says I’m sorry and is often driven by guilt. In fact, guilt was his prime motivation for becoming Spider-Man. So it made sense that she would advise him to forgive himself… which to me was just another way of saying, after you have received forgiveness, don’t continue to condemn yourself.
But it would have been better for her to have SAID what was assumed (or may have been cut). He should “make it right” (ask for MJs forgiveness) first, and then do the hardest thing (for him)… which was to stop wallowing in guilt and self-remorse… the thing that had him immobilized in that scene.
Hi Rich,
I wish I had more time to post about your discussion guide/bible study based on SM3. I will say that I thought it was very well done, and had some excellent probing questions, and certainly gave me some new viewpoints on a couple of scenes. (i.e. it never occurred to me that someone might misconstrue the symbiote bonding to Eddie as an “answer” to his prayer until you gave it as a question).
I believe if you’re catching flack from others concerning this, then they’ve probably not read what you wrote, or they’re simply opposed to the idea right out of the gate and would not be swayed anyway. Obviously any film has to be judged against the truth of Scripture, and I think you’ve done an excellent job of illuminating the worldview of SM3 with the Word of God. There are elements that reflect that truth, and there are elements that contradict or skew that truth.
To step back to the scene in the church, I do think you missed an excellent opportunity to compare Eddie and Peter to the Pharisee and tax collector in the parable found in Luke 18. Perhaps the reason it never occurred to me that the scene could look like the symbiote was an answer to Eddie’s prayer is because I recognized Eddie’s prayer as a “false” one, much like the Pharisee. He stated that he was humbled and humiliated, but his next request made it perfectly clear that humble was certainly NOT his heart condition. (Perhaps I recognized it so easily because I’ve certainly done the same foolish thing in my prayers before, displaying a false humility to a God who knows my heart.) He saw no wrong in his own actions, placing the responsibility squarely on Peter’s shoulders, and much like the Pharisee justified himself before God. (Perhaps it more resembles Romans 1:24 in that Eddie was given up to the lust of his heart to the impurity of the symbiote). Meanwhile, Peter had fled to the same church fully disgusted by what he had become, and what he had done, and was truly humbled in that regard. Just some thoughts.
On a side note, I’ve always been a fan of the Spider-man comics, ever since I was a kid, and I’ve always felt that with just the slightest amount of tweaking he could be turned into a truly Christian character. I remember reading a few years ago that Stan Lee based the theme “With great power comes great responsibility” off of a Bible verse he had read, namely Luke 12:48 where Jesus stated that “Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required…”. When the character has been handled by the writers who kept him close to his origin, then he’s always been a classic example of Paul’s conflicted person in Romans 7 – knowing what he should do, but finding it so hard to actually do it. I think that’s why the character resonates so deeply with people.
I believe I’ve rambled on quite enough.
God Bless,
Adam
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Adam,
I’m sorry I didn’t see your very nice post from a month ago about about the S3 study. Thank you, thank you, thank you! You actually read the study and interacted with it! Excellent!
And you had nice words to say, which is always a boost for me! :: grin ::
I agree, I probably could have used the Pharisee’s prayer as an illustration for the scene in the church with Eddie praying for vengeance. But the reason I went the direction I did is because I was thinking more about the new believer or seeker than the developed Christian when I wrote that particular question. Of course I say that, but I must admit the Pharisaical angle never occurred to me. I just felt, in my gut, that the most dangerous conclusion to walk away from that scene with is a view that God answers those kinds of prayers. One of the tenants of modern “spirituality” is that “prayer works.” And it does, but it also matters who you pray to, and your relationship with the one you pray to, and your attitude.
I could have also tied in Jame’s caution about prayer: “You do not have, because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.” (James 4:2-3) That also dovetails with your take on the scene.
I haven’t pasted the other study covering S1 and S2 into the blog yet, but you can still get them off my site, here.
It’d a PDF file. If you don’t have Adobe Acrobat installed (or if you hate it, like I do) try the free Foxit Reader. It’s very nice. Don’t be distracted by the “buy now” links, the reader itself is free.
Thanks, again, for the nice comments.
Rich
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Rich I really like your study but I don’t think a commercial movie can modernize today church!
Rich,
I like your Bible Study discussion about SM3. I would like to use it, or at least parts of it, with credit given to you, for our upcoming youth retreat this fall, if I may. I believe that modern literature or film, or literature in general, is a barometer of our society and it’s spiritual quest. No, not all films are Godly, but we can use them as illustrations to points of scripture. The basis of a good Bible study is inclusion of the Word of God with references that the youth can take home with them and consider.
Blessings to you,
Bryon
Mountain Park Youth, Abbotsford, BC
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Great article. I like how you relate the movie with the passages of the bible. Really Insightful.