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In Christ,

Jon Sharp

James Sundquist does this repeatedly, he condemns Islam and Roman Catholics as condemned for example. (How many billion people is that, and they both recognize Jesus Iesa as Messiah).

“for in what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and in what measure ye measure, it shall be measured to you.”
MAT 7:2

If James Sundquist does not have a perfect understanding of Christ’s role in the creation, as many of us no doubt do not, then may he be judged measure for measure as he has judged others,

Dear Steve,

This is not a legitimate interview from a responsible journalist reporting the news…rather it is an infomercial interview with pravda softball questions planted by the AG or Trask himself…not the 20 questions I would have asked him or you would have asked him or Ray Barnett, or Albert & Aimee Anderson, or Jacob Prasch, or Philip Powell, Steve Svenson, Ray Baumann, or Jeffrey Whittacker or Bob DeWaay. None of us are against Trask or are criticizing him because he simply works with other denominations….all of us do that…but because he himself is corrupt and promotes a host of false teachers. The first question is a good one…but why didn’t Mr. Donaldson press him on it…how could anyone possibly believe his answer why he left half way into his term of office? And where are the paragraphs and questions about restitution that Mr. Trask never answered and Hal Donaldson never asked? What a great opportunity lost by Mr. Trask to make restitution to all of the brothers in Christ he destroyed in the name of Jesus.

So instead of giving people like Ray Barnett and other AG Brothers he has destroyed a golden parachute for their retirement, he [and his accomplice Hal Donaldson] gives himself a eulogy (and a golden parachute). So Mr. Trask here is one of my questions for you? What are the financial components of your severance package that those AG pastors you drove out will never see?

This interview totally obfuscates the facts. You would think Mr. Trask was a hero in the AG instead of a Diotrophes. Dead Pharisees would be proud of this interview as would State approved Churches in the Soviet Union and China.

Now if Hal Donaldson were really serious, he would now interview Ray Barnett for the Pentecostal Evangel. But as in any state controlled media, only the party line is promoted…all opposition is censored.

But Philip Powel, Ray Barnett, Brett Bigg, Ray Baumann, Jewel Grewe, Brett Bigg, Jacob Prasch, Ray Baughman, Steve Svendsen, Bob DeWaay, Bennet Barlean, you are all invited to post my commentary on this Trask charade interview…you can be certain the censorship will bar it from being published in the Pentecostal Evangel. Did anyone ever see former AG Matriarch’s Dr. Opal Reddin’s appeal letter to the all AG pastors warning them about Rick Warren in the Pentecostal Evangel? Of course not! Did anyone ever see former AG Matriarch’s document that the AG was going Ecumenical published in the Pentecostal Evangel? Of course not! (But Jewel Grewe’s Discernment Ministries and Contending for the Faith and other radio and print publications did…bravo for you). Did anyone at Pentecostal Evangel ever interview or publish anyone who wrote about the abuse of Dr. Opal Reddin at the hands of Tom Trask at the National AG Convention? Of course not! They can’t say they never received any such articles, as I sent them to them myself. Think things will now go better with the new General Superintendent George Wood? Think again! He has already made a published statement that he will not even entertain any opposing views of Rick Warren’s teachings, in spite of Opal Reddin’s own personal appeal which he stiffed! Not satisfied by refusing to air an opposing view, he attacks them personally! Once and for all, let the AG party line reign supreme and false teachers abound. Let all still small voices in the wilderness be silenced. Let all opposition be vanquished! The AG has also been confronted repeatedly for promoting the false teachings of Rick Warren. To date no repentance…only retaliation!

Thomas Trask should be worried about Christ’s return for he will face the Lord Himself who may confront him with these Scriptures:

“He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.” Proverbs 17:15

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“Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly” (Lev. 19:15).

And if Tom Trask or George Wood were to per chance ask the Lord where their seats are located is at the Wedding Supper at the Lamb, Mr. Trask and Mr. Wood should wonder if the Lord will say to them: “Well I had seats for you, but I have now given them to for AG Pastor Albert Anderson and former NY AG District Superintendent Saied Adour.” [No offense intended to the host of other noble brothers and sisters defiled and destroyed by these men in the Assemblies of God.]

Pro 22:1 A [good] name [is] rather to be chosen than great riches, [and] loving favour rather than silver and gold.

Ecc 7:1 A good name [is] better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one’s birth.

Pro 18:19 A brother offended [is harder to be won] than a strong city: and [their] contentions [are] like the bars of a castle.

Pro 28:9He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer [shall be] abomination.

Pro 28:10Whoso causeth the righteous to go astray in an evil way, he shall fall himself into his own pit: but the upright shall have good [things] in possession.

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Pro 24:23¶These [things] also [belong] to the wise. [It is] not good to have respect of persons in judgment.

Pro 24:24He that saith unto the wicked, Thou [art] righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Pro 24:25But to them that rebuke [him] shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

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Zec 11:17Woe to the idol [some translations render "worthless"] shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword [shall be] upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

But thank God for Albert & Aimee Anderson, an AG pastor for nearly a half a century, for publishing WHITE COLLAR CRIME IN THE CHURCH, their just released new book which will help cast down the strongholds of the leadership in the Assemblies of God and expose their nefarious deeds of darkness, once and for all to see. It is available at:

http://www.airleaf.com/synopsis.asp?bookid=624&order=

But the NW District is also promoting Dale Pollard as a feature speaker who promotes Emerging Church October 5, 2007 – Presenter: Dr. Dale Pollard. Dale will share on the connection between counseling & spiritual formation, the topic of his doctoral project. Brian McLaren – http://www.anewkindofchristian.com

In 2008 they are featuring Dr. Kent Mankins another major promoter of personality temperament divination and a host of other psychoheresies.

Note right on his website he does not even hide the fact that he is using Myers-Briggs…which is universally known to be Carl Jung occultism which he obtained from one of his spirit-guides…a demon he called Philemon. See Chapter 11 of my book which discuss Jung in Rick Warren’s (SHAPE)…also promoted by the AOG

And thank for Philip Powell and his CETF Contending Earnestly for The Faith Magazine for their due diligence and persistence in posting the extensive false teachings and corruption in the Assemblies of God from their global ministry in Australia..month after month.

Kindest regards in Christ,

James Sundquist
Director
Rock Salt Publishing

Pastor “e”, thank you so much for your kind reflections and thoughts contained in your most recent post! We must continue to write with a great sense of intercession and courage as we all navigate the treacherous waters of this current day! I am so comforted that Jesus continues to build His true church, and that the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. Blessings to you.

Brother Ray: Your comments are as direct and insightful as ever! I remember being told by a Michigan District Official upon his finding out that I had sent then Supt. Thomas Trask a questioning e-mail, “Brother, you’re going where angels fear to tread!” That was a key moment of illumination as to what spirit was at work. I prayed, “Oh Lord, may none of my congregation ever feel that they need be afraid of their Pastor, simply for seeking the truth. Blessings upon you.

For Christ’s Sake,
Brother Jeff

A response to Jeff Whitaker and Eric Smith’s remarks above.

Concerning Thomas Trask – Great speeches, even right speeches, are often given by corrupt men. I read the transcript of Trask’s soliloquy. For those of us who have seen his public persona versus his private behavior, we know the difference between saying the right things and doing them. Do we so soon forget the “right” speeches of Jimmy Swaggart, Marvin Gorman, Ted Haggard, et al?

[Please refer to - http://www.timefortruth.com/ForYourSpirit/StateOfChurch.aspx

Believe it or not, not all men in positions of authority are honest; and not all disbarred members of the hegemonious A/G denomination [which the A/G has become - illegally] are sinful, untruthful, or bitter. Truth can still be found in forgotten dwellings and forsaken places.

Unfortunately, I too wept when I read Trask’s words. I thought – If only he had lived them! Then the A/G would not have half the problems it does now! But, alas! – Truth has fallen in the streets, and lies shattered in shards of broken pieces in the highways and byways of Springfield!

Concerning George Wood – Clever, endearing, and cunning. It is interesting that you refer to him Rich, as a “prince of a man,” for he is more like Niccolo Machiavelli than most A/G constituents know. As a political realist, he, like his predecessor Trask, knows well the Machiavellian philosophy, which can be stated thus –

“The theories expressed in The Prince are often venerated as very insightful and shrewd methods an aspiring prince can use to gain the throne, or an existing prince can use to establish and maintain his reign. According to Machiavelli, moral principles must yield to every circumstance, especially in such cases where sordid, inhumane actions may be required. It is imperative that the prince be willing to do anything necessary to maintain power; however, Machiavelli asserts strongly that above all, the prince must not be hated. He does give a concise answer on whether or not a prince should be feared or loved, he states, “..a wise prince should establish himself on that which is his own control and not in that of others; he must endeavor to avoid hatred, as is noted.” He also says “It is best to be both feared and loved, however, if one cannot be both it is better to be feared than loved.” [Massa-Carrara, Marina (2006). El Principe/The Prince]

Trask was feared and loved, but more feared than loved by most A/G constituents. His choler and irascible temperament earned him that reputation.

Mr. Wood will prove to be more loved than feared. However, as he “builds bridges” to the Warrenites and many others, the barbarians will cross those overpasses and conduits, and destroy the foundations forever, as they did centuries ago in the Roman Church.

Sound doctrine and its’ practice will not survive the coming invasion, as Biblical faith and practice that women like Opal Reddin and so many others labored to build so long ago, crumbles in clouds of dust when the walls come down.

I loved Bro. Trask’s farewell message as well – to bad it hadn’t been preached years ago.

Praying for the A/G

Eric Smith – Pastor e

God have mercy on us all,
Jeffrey L. Whittaker

Greetings to you in Jesus name. Congratulation upon your new position and responsibility. I followed your presentation online and despite the fact that we live in prosperous nation does not negate that some of us who are involved in church planting are still doing the same way your parents did long time ago. Things have not been changed especially for those who have come from other part of the world and do church planting here in the US.

It occurred to me to respond to David Moore’s post of September 12, 2007, but i was not able to make up my mind; i.e. whether to cry or to laugh. How low will we sink before we hit bottom? When the role models of the church and it’s leadership are money – driven businesmen [Yes, I am aware that Drucker professed to be a Christian], it is indicative of a serious, systemic problem that, at this point in world and church history, may well be incurable.

Is David Moore aware of other things that Peter Drucker has said, beyond the select quotes listed above? – such as:

“Executives owe it to the organization and to their fellow workers not to tolerate nonperforming individuals in important jobs.”

How do we, in the church, measure “nonperforming?” By Noah – who had 8 souls in his church [sic] after 100 years of ministry? By Jeremiah -whose message was intolerable to the ears of God’s people, and was rewarded for his eforts by excoriation, imprisonment, and rejection? By Isaiah, who, according to tradition, was sawn in half? By John the Baptist, who whose bloody head was rolled onto a silver salver and delivered to the daughter of a seductive strumpet because he never read Carnegie’s – “How To Win Friends and Influence People?” By the Apostles, who almost to a man, were killed for both their message and their delivery? In God’s eyes, who is really productive and “nonproductive?” Only Eternity will tell!

Peter Drucker, again said – “The corporation is the “master,” the employee is the “servant”. Because the corporation owns the means of production without which the employee could not make a living, the employee needs the corporation more than vice versa.”

The church and its leaders are now “masters,” and the brothers and sisters in the church are the “servants?” No wonder Jesus vowed to vomit Laodicea out of his mouth!

Drucker again said – “Most discussions of decision making assume that only senior executives make decisions or that only senior executives’ decisions matter. This is a dangerous mistake.”

Based on his previous statement, this rises to the level of cognitive dissonance, even though I will admit the A/G needs to heed this point!

Peter Drucker spent his entire life teaching “business” techniques to “businessmen” and “businesses.” Is the church to be run on the principles of a business tycoon, whose bottom line was product, profit, and productivity? What does the Scripture say?

Whatever happened to prayer, preaching, and the power of the Holy Spirit? What ever became of the A/G’s commitment to follow the paradigm [sic] of the Apostles in the book of Acts –

Act 6:1-4 And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables. Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word. .”

And, notice the results they received –

Act 6:7 And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.

An increase in God’s Word, an increase in numerical growth, and an increase in the religious clergy becoming born again, all from – prayer and preaching? My, what old wine contained in the 2,000 year old wineskin of the Holy Scriptures! But, away with it, and on with the new!

Would to God we could even come close to duplicating what the Apostles did – resurrection of the dead; healing of sicknessess and diseases without medical intervention; casting out of devils [yes, they DO exst],thousands of converted, holy disciples of Christ, etc.

Ravi Zacharias , in an interview with Major John Carter on “Leadership and Calling” said – “I think to know that you are called is a seal within your heart. I might also add—this is one thing that is not stressed for many who go into the ministry at this time. Today it is almost a manufactured profession. John Stott’s comment years ago was very appropriate when he said that the pastor’s study is replaced by the terminology “pastor’s office.” He said the study is where you learned and understood and heard from God and then went and spoke to the people. The office is where you manage a group of people. And without pushing it too far, the point is still well taken.”

Yes, indeed, it is a point well taken!

I submit to you, that the sickness of the modern church may well be beyond cure, if men are looking to Peter Drucker instead of Simon Peter, who read and studied Jesus Christ – the Eternal Son of God; as should ALL minsters of the Gospel.

Raymond M. Barnett

The Time for Truth Ministries

http://www.timefortruth.com

Peter Drucker is arguably the most respected, as well as most influential, management theorist of our generation. He passed away a few years ago at the age of 95. During his lifetime, spanning from Germany to Great Britain to the United States, he authored more than 90 books. I often refer to Drucker as the mentor I never met. I think some of the insights he recorded toward the end of his life might be useful as an analytical tool in evaluating the changes that have recently taken place in the leadership of the Assemblies of God.

At 90 years of age Drucker wrote the book Management Challenges For The 21st Century. In this book he states that,

“Change is painful and risky, and above all it requires a great deal of very hard work. But unless it is seen as the task of the organization, the organization — whether a university, a hospital, or a church — will not survive.”

Those are pretty strong words.

He goes on to say, “so the first priority — and the foundation for all others — is to abandon yesterday.” Drucker concludes his injunction for the necessity of embracing change with these words:

“We almost always overestimate how much ‘life’ there is still in the old way of thinking. Usually it is not ‘dying;’ it is dead. And there’s nothing as difficult and as expensive, but also nothing as futile, as to try to keep a corpse from stinking.”

When I read this I was reminded of the words of Jesus spoken to the disciples of John (Matthew 9:16).

“No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment, for the patch will pull away from the garment, making the tear worse. Neither do men pour new wine into old wineskins. If they do, the skins will burst, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved.”

Jesus was responding to the concern of the disciples of John that the disciples of Jesus were dishonoring established tradition by not fasting. Jesus did not minimize the importance of fasting (tradition). “The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; then they will fast.” (Matthew 9: 15) Rather, Jesus wanted them to know that if the gospel is to be advanced change is necessary, and old forms are not able to contain change.

Respect for “old forms” and continuing to use them as containers for “fresh” ingredients are very different. The Assemblies of God has a rich tradition, one that should be respected, honored, and preserved. But as both Drucker and Jesus suggest, there is a time to “abandon yesterday” and “pour new wine into new wineskins.” The future of our Fellowship, and more importantly, the future of the church of Jesus Christ, as it has throughout the ages, depends on it.

Let us then embrace change and move forward, preserving past values and never compromising the truth of the gospel, but in its application being fully cognizant of the realities of societal change, cultural differences, and the dynamics of globalization in the world in which we live. Let us also expect change that reflects these realities to be forthcoming in the strategies and designs of our new leadership, our “new wine” if you will.