Comments on: Ranking the Divine: The Holy Spirit and Search trends http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/ Pentecostal Rumination and Review Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:10:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ahavafriend http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66688 ahavafriend Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:33:25 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66688 <strong>Where is The Holy Spirit...</strong> « For roughly the last 6 months I have been increasingly provoked in my thinking regarding the place, prominence, and purpose of the Holy Spirit. I grew up in a Pentecostal tradition and am well-acquainted with what is taught and practiced in these circles. But in the larger church world, which I have been more deeply exposed to over the last 7 years, I have missed Him. So much so that I finally picked up a book I have wanted to re-read for some time (which I will review when I'm done). Interestingly, a friend's blog actually asked this same question and has statistics to demonstrate a glaring absence. Check out the post and let me know what you think.… » [<a href="http://ahavafriend.blogspot.com/2007/06/where-is-holy-spirit.html" rel="nofollow">more</a>] Where is The Holy Spirit…

« For roughly the last 6 months I have been increasingly provoked in my thinking regarding the place, prominence, and purpose of the Holy Spirit. I grew up in a Pentecostal tradition and am well-acquainted with what is taught and practiced in these circles. But in the larger church world, which I have been more deeply exposed to over the last 7 years, I have missed Him. So much so that I finally picked up a book I have wanted to re-read for some time (which I will review when I’m done). Interestingly, a friend’s blog actually asked this same question and has statistics to demonstrate a glaring absence. Check out the post and let me know what you think.… » [more]

]]> By: Common Swift http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66529 Common Swift Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:26:54 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66529 The Holy Spirit is the awesome power of God! Jesus needed this Comforter to do what he needed to do on this earth, but remember, The Holy Spirit ALWAYS points to the Son, our Savior. He brings no attention to Himself, but always directs to the Son, points TO Him. Worry about the web traffic not going to the Savior of this world. The Holy Spirit is the awesome power of God! Jesus needed this Comforter to do what he needed to do on this earth, but remember, The Holy Spirit ALWAYS points to the Son, our Savior. He brings no attention to Himself, but always directs to the Son, points TO Him. Worry about the web traffic not going to the Savior of this world.

]]> By: jim http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66297 jim Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:16:58 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66297 Mark, you bring a smile to my face in spite of the sadness in my heart, for you say it even as I have been espousing it for several years now. I believe in the Bible as the inspired Word of God and find, within its pages, a foundation for my faith; but somewhere along the way, if we haven't lifted it up like the brass serpent and bowed down before it, we have proclaimed it a sword in our hand rather than His, slicing off ears of our own choosing rather than allowing Him to perform surgery on the inner man, be it ours or whomsoever's........ Mark, you bring a smile to my face in spite of the sadness in my heart, for you say it even as I have been espousing it for several years now. I believe in the Bible as the inspired Word of God and find, within its pages, a foundation for my faith; but somewhere along the way, if we haven’t lifted it up like the brass serpent and bowed down before it, we have proclaimed it a sword in our hand rather than His, slicing off ears of our own choosing rather than allowing Him to perform surgery on the inner man, be it ours or whomsoever’s……..

]]> By: Mark Brand http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66292 Mark Brand Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:16:59 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66292 Wow...! What amazing statistics, Rich...! Thanks for bringing them to our attention. In the city where I live, which hosts what argueably could be called the leading "cessationist" evangelical seminary in America today, it sometimes seems like the Holy Trinity has been changed from "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" to "Father, Son, and Holy Bible." I am all about the "Word." In fact, the vast majority of my preaching is exposition, but the written Word was never intended to replace the Spirit. Blessings on your job search...! Wow…! What amazing statistics, Rich…! Thanks for bringing them to our attention. In the city where I live, which hosts what argueably could be called the leading “cessationist” evangelical seminary in America today, it sometimes seems like the Holy Trinity has been changed from “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” to “Father, Son, and Holy Bible.” I am all about the “Word.” In fact, the vast majority of my preaching is exposition, but the written Word was never intended to replace the Spirit.

Blessings on your job search…!

]]> By: John http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66271 John Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:13:29 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66271 Rich, I found this post particularly interesting because I have had many recent conversations with fellow believers where I have been expressing the same dismay. I am currently re-reading Fee's "God's Empowering Presence" and have been intending to synthesize it down to a blog post soon. Thanks again for the stats to support my own experience/assumptions. I am grieved that the NT church has forgotten God's gift to us in these latter days. Rich,

I found this post particularly interesting because I have had many recent conversations with fellow believers where I have been expressing the same dismay. I am currently re-reading Fee’s “God’s Empowering Presence” and have been intending to synthesize it down to a blog post soon. Thanks again for the stats to support my own experience/assumptions.

I am grieved that the NT church has forgotten God’s gift to us in these latter days.

]]> By: Drell's Descants: "Jesus More Popular Than Bono But Less Popular At Times Than Harry Potter" http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66229 Drell's Descants: "Jesus More Popular Than Bono But Less Popular At Times Than Harry Potter" Wed, 30 May 2007 23:48:48 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66229 « Hat tip to my favorite Pentecostal rodent.… » [<a href="http://descant.classicalanglican.net/?p=2895" title="Jesus More Popular Than Bono But Less Popular At Times Than Harry Potter" rel="nofollow">more</a>] « Hat tip to my favorite Pentecostal rodent.… » [more]

]]> By: DLE http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66217 DLE Wed, 30 May 2007 06:06:13 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66217 Rich, Thanks for the link and the quote. Nothing I've written on Cerulean Sanctum since 9/2003 has received more comments than "The Holy Who?" yet we still go blithely on and forget the Spirit. Rich,

Thanks for the link and the quote. Nothing I’ve written on Cerulean Sanctum since 9/2003 has received more comments than “The Holy Who?” yet we still go blithely on and forget the Spirit.

]]> By: Rich http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66213 Rich Tue, 29 May 2007 11:39:50 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66213 Thanks, Jim, for your comments. You're right. Outside the Pentecostal/Charismatic world the Holy Spirit is often relegated to … oblivion while inside the P/C world the Spirit becomes and impersonal "power source" that we "plug in to." Yes, I've heard this language. We do too often treat the Spirit impersonally and often don't know how to think about him much less talk, preach, or teach about him. Rich <a href="http://tatumweb.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">BlogRodent</a> Thanks, Jim, for your comments.

You’re right. Outside the Pentecostal/Charismatic world the Holy Spirit is often relegated to … oblivion while inside the P/C world the Spirit becomes and impersonal “power source” that we “plug in to.” Yes, I’ve heard this language.

We do too often treat the Spirit impersonally and often don’t know how to think about him much less talk, preach, or teach about him.

Rich
BlogRodent

]]> By: jim http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66212 jim Tue, 29 May 2007 11:18:19 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66212 My best friend once preached a message, Rich, entitled: "Will the Real Holy Ghost Please Stand Up!" While you search results certainly do provide interesting information, for me the question remains: Just whom do we, as a Pentecostal community, believe this Third Member of the Trinity to be? My perspective is, no doubt, limited to those I have observed in this area and via TV tele-eveangelists, and (as always) subject to error, but it does seem to me that we, the "Church", have either reduced Him to an insignificant "whiff" that attaches Himself to our actions, or erased Him altogether through a process of osmosis whereby we, ourselves, become the power/authority that He, alone, is. In that sense, until we define this divine Personage, I'm not sure we can address your results. My best friend once preached a message, Rich, entitled: “Will the Real Holy Ghost Please Stand Up!” While you search results certainly do provide interesting information, for me the question remains: Just whom do we, as a Pentecostal community, believe this Third Member of the Trinity to be?

My perspective is, no doubt, limited to those I have observed in this area and via TV tele-eveangelists, and (as always) subject to error, but it does seem to me that we, the “Church”, have either reduced Him to an insignificant “whiff” that attaches Himself to our actions, or erased Him altogether through a process of osmosis whereby we, ourselves, become the power/authority that He, alone, is.

In that sense, until we define this divine Personage, I’m not sure we can address your results.

]]> By: Rich http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/comment-page-1/#comment-66209 Rich Tue, 29 May 2007 05:18:59 +0000 http://tatumweb.com/blog/2007/05/28/divine-rank/#comment-66209 For what it's worth, the total results for the PneumaSearch seem low, in my opinion. And for anybody who's interested, I created the little graphs next to the blog search results with Excel, then resized them with an image editor and added the text labels there. They should be accurate in terms of relative results. Rich <a href="http://tatumweb.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">BlogRodent</a> For what it’s worth, the total results for the PneumaSearch seem low, in my opinion.

And for anybody who’s interested, I created the little graphs next to the blog search results with Excel, then resized them with an image editor and added the text labels there. They should be accurate in terms of relative results.

Rich
BlogRodent

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