Charismatic Heresy

November 20th, 2005 @ 4:40 pm by Rich | Share This | Comments: 15
Filed under: Assembly of God, Pentecostal, Religion, Rage and Rants

J. Lee Grady, over at Charisma magazine, has issued a call for clearheadedness among the charis-manics in his editorial, “It’s Getting Really Weird Out There.” The article cites strange goings-on at various Charismatic churches, and some classical Pentecostal churches.

This is where I cite my earlier post, “The Problem with Pentecostal Distinctives,” to reinforce his point. This is what happens when any group elevates experience and subjectivity above a commitment to sound biblical hermeneutics. This is why Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 12-14, addressing bad theology based on experience, grounding the Corinthians instead in the greatest commandment: love.

More than anything, we need to adhere to first principles: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul; and love your neighbor as yourself. While none of us, not one, can claim to keep these commandments perfectly, it’s the goal we aim for.

If I truly love God to any degree, I will be devoted to his Word and obedience to his commands. To the degree that I love God, I will desire to know him, to seek his mind on all matters, to obey the clear reading of Scripture. When I do that, I find myself returning to the Word over, and over; I’ll read devotionally, meditate on what he has to say, memorize it, study it. (Confession: writing this is convicting me.)

The most immediate means of knowing and loving God we have is bound between leather, and it’s usually gathering dust on the table by the door—where it’s easy to grab on our way to church. Too many of us, in the pew and in the pulpit, don’t bother to read it, much less study it the way it must be studied to truly apprehend it and live by it.

What happens when we fail to ground our practice (orthopraxy) on a clear understanding of scripture (orthodoxy)? We get this:

  • A pastor reveals a “new revelation,” that the Bible says church leaders can have more than one wife.
  • “At one charismatic megachurch, staff pastors successfully convinced all their wives and female staff members to get breast implants.”
  • A church in California (known for its revival meetings and prophetic ministry) recently imploded after members learned that several men in the church had been having homosexual affairs with the pastor, who was married.”
  • “A leader with an international following (who wears the label of “apostle”) recently informed his leaders that men of God who reach his level of anointing are allowed to have more than one sexual partner. Then his own son offered his wife to his father out of a sense of spiritual obligation.”
  • “In 2000 Charisma reported that charismatic preacher Clarence McClendon had divorced his wife of 16 years, Tammera McClendon, and married another woman after only seven days. The ceremony was performed by Bishop Earl Paulk, founder of the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit in Atlanta. Several prominent ministers attended the wedding, lending their endorsement to McClendon’s actions. Tammera McClendon later informed Charisma that Clarence had told her while they were married that God had already shown him the woman who would replace her as his wife.”
  • (From the Strang message board…) “[A]t Water of Life in Plano, TX. Doyle Davidson, says God ‘took Patty’ (his first wife) ‘out of my life in 1987’ even though they lived together until her death two or three years ago. In 1987, Davidson says ‘God gave him a new wife’ who was the wife of one of his staff members. Davidson fired the staff member a year or so ago when he went to their house and caused a major disturbance. Davidson was arrested and fined for public intoxication. Of course he says it was all a lie. [This] lady … has gone under cover with her husband and has said she committed adultery with Davidson and he tells her and his parishioners that ‘they did not committ adultery because “what God has joined together, man can not do away with.”’”

Is any of this truly new? No, junk like this has gone on throughout all of recorded religious history: any time the People of the Book abandon the Word to chase after subjectively inspired interpretations or extra-biblical revelations, things go massively off-track. (Just read about Aimee Semple McPherson.) I don’t lay the blame at the foot of either Charismatics or Pentecostals. I lay the blame at the foot of people who refuse to train their minds according to Scripture. I lay the blame at the foot of people who are not loving God with their mind, and letting their thinking be truly transformed.

Elsewhere on the pneumatic blogosphere, right now, there is a debate going on between cessationists and Charismatics/Pentecostals about whether or not the Baptism of the Spirit is for today, or whether it ceased with the creation of the canon. I haven’t gotten involved, because it’s not a pressing issue for me: I think the scriptures are clear, and I don’t have anything pressing to add. But what I’ve noticed about the discussion is that cessationists routinely cite examples like the above to illustrate why Pentecostal/Charismatic doctrine is essentially unbiblical.

So, we try to re-frame the debate based on what the Scriptures say, and these examples keep coming back to haunt our discussions. We try to move the dialog away from ad hominem attacks, and these all-too animated straw men who don’t represent me, my friends, or the best Pentecostal teachers keep getting thrown into the fray. It’s disgusting and disheartening. Meanwhile, too much of the discussion lacks the hallmark of love.

And the Assemblies of God is not immune. There’s plenty of charis-manic heresy and bad doctrine floating around within our ranks. Much of it is in the pews, but there’s still some coming out of pulpits.

May God save us from ourselves.


In the blogosphere:

  • Brad Boydston agrees: “Any movement which sees emotional intense experience as defining and normative is by nature subject to emotional manipulation.”
  • Stacy L. Harp (I think) at WritingRight calls for more judgment, and chimes in with her own judgment: “most Christians I get flak from are ignorant of Scripture, and are usually Pentecostal types…nothing personal against Pentecostals, but that has been my experience”
  • Fr. Daniel, at Misere Mei gives three cheers for Grady, and cautions pastors: “No amount of counseling and restoration processes can restore the trust of those who have been violated by reprobates in the pulpit.”
  • Colin McGahey at The Resurgence is still stuck on the remnants of the Word of Faith movement: “There is no correlation in the gospel preached in these prosperity churches to the gospel preached in the persecuted churches around the world.”
  • Bad exegesis is why Totem to Temple left the movement: “After seeing ‘most everything’ in the Pentecostal / Charismatic / Word of Faith / Third Wave camps and their value of the esoteric and experiences of personal revelation over the exegesis, evangelism, and the ecclesiastics of the Word and Spirit, I had to leave years ago.”


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Wow, Rich! I’ve lived a really sheltered life. I keep hearing all this talk about how crazy we charismatics are, how afflicted with “charismania” and heresy, but as I was telling Dan Edelen, I’ve never managed to encounter any of it, even after all these years. Now, I am starting to feel left out. (Well, I’ve encountered bad stuff, sure enough, but it had totally nothing to do with the charismatic gifts. And the only example I’ve encountered personally of flaming heresy was in a Baptist church where the assistant pastor flat out denied the deity of XP.) Anyhow, I’m beginning to think there must be something really wrong with me. (As for Aimee Semple McPherson, I think if she were here now, she’d be the first to admit her failings. And I think that she has been to some degree unfairly maligned, but I guess that’s a whole different discussion for another day.)


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The only times I’ve encountered it are when I stepped off the beaten path of classical pentecostalism. For the most part, what I’ve seen and heard are minor compared to what Grady reported. Usually I hear scriptures woefully misapplied or used to justify an an odd-but-not-necessarily heretical view. Or there were the rash of behaviors that came out of Toronto and Brownsville a few years back. I’ve read some of Steve Hill’s sermons that were collected in book form, and I felt that there was a disturbing lack of biblical literacy there.

Usually, while I get a whiff of something like that here and there, I’m not around long enough to see things devolve.

Rich.


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Rich,

That is one of the reasons why I shy away from mainstream charismatics and third-wavers is because of the lack of making the bible the final authority for faith and practice and turning to revelations that lacks sound doctrine and cannot be proven by the Word of God.


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I agree, Paul. On the other hand, not all within Charismatic circles is bad. I think what’s happening within Charismatic Reformed circles is pretty interesting, and I’m not put off by the theology at all. (See and his Reformed Charismatic blogroll.)

Rich.


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I have been communicating with Adrian off and on since May-June of this year and I have the blogroll on my blog.

Sovereign Grace ministries is a denom that I have been looking into for the last year or two.
Their defunct magazine has a few articles on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit from NOVEMBER/DECEMBER ‘98.
http://www.sovereigngraceministries.org/sgo/v16no6/



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From: ColinM [Subscriber]
Posted: Monday, December 19, 2005 @ 12:08 pm

Thanks for the link. I am new around these parts.

In class (at my Baptist seminary), we were told that Baptist pastors pray 20 minutes a day, while Pentecostals average 47 minutes a day. We were urged to seek God’s face. I would be reticent to malign young Baptist preachers because they are more allied with those seeking the face of God than you may think.

Am I stuck on the Word of Faith movement? Not really, but I was asked to investigate a particularly popular church that espouses lazy theology. I have experienced it, seen it, and preached against it, not because it is something to “be stuck on,” but because it is a cultural issue we still face. Maybe the mainlines have dismissed it: but now it is time to dismantle it. Just this month I saw the outworkings of the faith destroy a twenty year marriage. Like I said, it is a different gospel, and it is bred by the “prophetic” movement plus one other thing…

That other thing is exactly what you mentioned: lack of Scriptural knowledge, or lack of willingness to put that knowledge into practice. Cessationists may wrongly use those examples as arguments, but there is a valid point to be garnered from that “straw man” argument– what happens when you mix this “prophetic” atmosphere with disobedience or ignorance of the Word. Solution- those charismatics that hold to biblical truths need to step up and denounce the false ministries, something the charismatics on the national platform have been unwilling to do, save David Ravenhill.

Great blog.


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You might be interested in a related blog post I wrote on Bishop Carlton Pearson and his “Gospel of Inclusion” heresy:

Carlton D. Pearson: The Charismatic Bishop of Heresy

Amazing stuff.

Regards,

Rich
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From: Lynn [Subscriber]
Posted: Sunday, April 30, 2006 @ 10:14 am

I go to an A/G church, but have very Reformed views. It has been a struggle for years.

Here’s one question I have: Why, if Charistmatic/Pentecostals have the “Baptism of the Holy Spirit,” do they tend to have MORE sin/problems in life than other more mainline denominations? It seems to be a doctrine that this second blessing is supposed to give power to live a godly life. I just don’t see it! My Presbyterian and Baptist friends seem to have a better handle on living the Christian life.

What about “prayer language”? Is this phenomena really in the Bible? I see the gift of tongues, but not a prayer language solely for the idividual? If it is really supposed to build up the believer, why does it produce such flakiness?


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From: Rich [Admin]
Posted: Friday, May 26, 2006 @ 2:02 am

Lynn, I took a stab at answering your question in a post. You can see it here:

Pentecostal Sin

Regards,

Rich
BlogRodent


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From: Common Swift [Subscriber]
Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2006 @ 11:25 pm

If you are asking me to respect the bullies over at “Charisma,” your barking up the wrong tree!


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From: Rich [Admin]
Posted: Sunday, August 13, 2006 @ 5:44 pm

Common Swift,

I’m not aware of the Charisma Magazine necessarily being “bullies,” but regardless, Grady doesn’t seem to be acting like a bully in reporting these facts. Not according to the context I read.

Besides, how does calling Grady and Charisma a “bully” address the issue at all? Either these things happened, or they didn’t. I’m not asking you to respect Grady, or Charisma. If you want to respond, please respond to the contents of my post (or other commenters) not your evaluation of the character of the people I quote.

Thanks.

Rich.
BlogRodent


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From: Common Swift [Subscriber]
Posted: Monday, August 14, 2006 @ 12:27 am

Sorry Rich,

I had a knee jerk reaction with “Charisma” and what I have consistently seen on its message board.

My apology for singling out Grady.


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From: Rich [Admin]
Posted: Monday, August 14, 2006 @ 2:08 am

Thanks, Swift, for your apology–though I feel awkward accepting it since I really don’t feel offended. But, I accept it in the spirit in which you intended it!

And, I understand. Message fora (mine included) get pretty heated at times and characters get assassinated all the time.

Regards,

Rich
BlogRodent


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