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	<title>Comments on: Robertson&#8217;s irrational God. (Oh, and Intelligent Design, too.)</title>
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		<title>By: Common Swift</title>
		<link>http://tatumweb.com/blog/2005/11/12/robertsons-irrational-god/comment-page-1/#comment-4932</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Evolution is a perfect example of, “If you say something long enough, people will believe it.” It’s so widely accepted because it’s taught to us at such a young age. It’s so ingrained in our society it’s like questioning factual history if you do dare to even question the thing. Let me address the points you bring up in your post:

1.	Viruses don’t change into “new” diseases, you’d be surprised how limited they are. Viruses have a stable point and a variable point; because a virus is simple, the variable part is much larger than anything that could exist with a higher life form.

2.	How can we explain animal extinction? Well, what about over hunting? What about the effects of introduced species or the destruction of habitat with the secondary ripples effect? All of this was done by the hand of man over thousands of years. I thank God our Lord loves us considering how we’ve so abused the stewardship he gave us over the earth and everything on it. Why you think that plays against God or even how that has anything to do with biological evolution is beyond me my brother.

Evolution states that organisms adapt to their environment via natural selection but natural selection is an oxymoron .What or who chooses which traits will be beneficial?  
If it’s a case of trial and error over eons of time, there should be mass graveyards of what’s left of transitional junk animals that just couldn’t cut it, instead of the handful of bones that evolutionists trot out like it’s the second coming. Evolutionists sometimes try to get around that, (their pat answer to glaring inconsistencies is usually, “We don’t know yet”) instead of questioning the premise by saying it’s exactly because of those eons you won’t find the graveyards, but the massive amount of time natural selection supposedly needed to work it’s magic doesn’t matter because you still have to explain the theory as coming from randomness. Randomness begets chaos no matter the timeframe and only consciousness can manipulate matter and reverse chaos.

Former evolutionists and scientists like Phillip Skell, Stephen Meyers, and Henry Schaefer, who have embraced Intelligent Design, have gone through a nightmare of vicious personal attacks; yet their credentials are never questioned because they’re impeccable. From the media, however, you get the idea that all I.D. believers are from the backwoods of Arkansas. I hate how evolution has become such a stumbling block to people’s faith when it really doesn’t need to be.                                                                                       
 
Warm regards,
Franc    

P.S. The Bible indicates when referring to animals that, “like will begat like.” Changes within a species of animals is biblical and without debate, it’s these bones of extinct apes we are supposedly descended from that’s what is the fairy tale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Evolution is a perfect example of, “If you say something long enough, people will believe it.” It’s so widely accepted because it’s taught to us at such a young age. It’s so ingrained in our society it’s like questioning factual history if you do dare to even question the thing. Let me address the points you bring up in your post:</p>
<p>1.	Viruses don’t change into “new” diseases, you’d be surprised how limited they are. Viruses have a stable point and a variable point; because a virus is simple, the variable part is much larger than anything that could exist with a higher life form.</p>
<p>2.	How can we explain animal extinction? Well, what about over hunting? What about the effects of introduced species or the destruction of habitat with the secondary ripples effect? All of this was done by the hand of man over thousands of years. I thank God our Lord loves us considering how we’ve so abused the stewardship he gave us over the earth and everything on it. Why you think that plays against God or even how that has anything to do with biological evolution is beyond me my brother.</p>
<p>Evolution states that organisms adapt to their environment via natural selection but natural selection is an oxymoron .What or who chooses which traits will be beneficial?<br />
If it’s a case of trial and error over eons of time, there should be mass graveyards of what’s left of transitional junk animals that just couldn’t cut it, instead of the handful of bones that evolutionists trot out like it’s the second coming. Evolutionists sometimes try to get around that, (their pat answer to glaring inconsistencies is usually, “We don’t know yet”) instead of questioning the premise by saying it’s exactly because of those eons you won’t find the graveyards, but the massive amount of time natural selection supposedly needed to work it’s magic doesn’t matter because you still have to explain the theory as coming from randomness. Randomness begets chaos no matter the timeframe and only consciousness can manipulate matter and reverse chaos.</p>
<p>Former evolutionists and scientists like Phillip Skell, Stephen Meyers, and Henry Schaefer, who have embraced Intelligent Design, have gone through a nightmare of vicious personal attacks; yet their credentials are never questioned because they’re impeccable. From the media, however, you get the idea that all I.D. believers are from the backwoods of Arkansas. I hate how evolution has become such a stumbling block to people’s faith when it really doesn’t need to be.                                                                                       </p>
<p>Warm regards,<br />
Franc    </p>
<p>P.S. The Bible indicates when referring to animals that, “like will begat like.” Changes within a species of animals is biblical and without debate, it’s these bones of extinct apes we are supposedly descended from that’s what is the fairy tale.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Kipp</title>
		<link>http://tatumweb.com/blog/2005/11/12/robertsons-irrational-god/comment-page-1/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right that much within evolution is up for debate, and our planet is such a wonderous place it&#039;s hard not to believe that God&#039;s hand must have been at work. But to say evolution is a theory without a solid buttress of facts is not correct. The basic principles of natural selection are very solidly supported and there is no other explanation with such a vast volume of proof behind it. My reasoning for supporting this position includes the following:

1) How can we explain the ability of viruses (and other microbes) to change themselves to become new diseases without some kind of natural evolution. Without evolution (or an equally reasonable natural explanation, of which no such thing exists), the only explanation would be that our God makes them on purpose. I find it hard to believe that God is deliberately making these new diseases all the time.

2) How can we explain extinction? If the only species are those initially created by God in the beginning, then no new species would ever be created after the initial divine creation. Therefore, logically, the possibility of extinction means God created something which by its very nature must start diminishing the moment it was created. This in turn implies that all life can, and quite probably should, die out after some time. Again, it is hard to believe that this is the case.

It seems much more likely that God &quot;planted a garden,&quot; so to speak, when he created us and that his plan involves the natural growth of that garden into something beautiful when mature. In other words, it seems most likely that evolution exists and is part of God&#039;s plan. There may be a few aphids in the garden (e.g the new diseases), but ultimately the end result will be worth it. I much prefer this position than being forced into a position of teaching our children that God makes new diseases (the next obvious question would be: why are we being so indescriminately punished?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right that much within evolution is up for debate, and our planet is such a wonderous place it&#8217;s hard not to believe that God&#8217;s hand must have been at work. But to say evolution is a theory without a solid buttress of facts is not correct. The basic principles of natural selection are very solidly supported and there is no other explanation with such a vast volume of proof behind it. My reasoning for supporting this position includes the following:</p>
<p>1) How can we explain the ability of viruses (and other microbes) to change themselves to become new diseases without some kind of natural evolution. Without evolution (or an equally reasonable natural explanation, of which no such thing exists), the only explanation would be that our God makes them on purpose. I find it hard to believe that God is deliberately making these new diseases all the time.</p>
<p>2) How can we explain extinction? If the only species are those initially created by God in the beginning, then no new species would ever be created after the initial divine creation. Therefore, logically, the possibility of extinction means God created something which by its very nature must start diminishing the moment it was created. This in turn implies that all life can, and quite probably should, die out after some time. Again, it is hard to believe that this is the case.</p>
<p>It seems much more likely that God &#8220;planted a garden,&#8221; so to speak, when he created us and that his plan involves the natural growth of that garden into something beautiful when mature. In other words, it seems most likely that evolution exists and is part of God&#8217;s plan. There may be a few aphids in the garden (e.g the new diseases), but ultimately the end result will be worth it. I much prefer this position than being forced into a position of teaching our children that God makes new diseases (the next obvious question would be: why are we being so indescriminately punished?).</p>
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		<title>By: Omara</title>
		<link>http://tatumweb.com/blog/2005/11/12/robertsons-irrational-god/comment-page-1/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Omara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://sciencetheoryreligion.angelcities.com/index.html

Neither evolution or creation ideas (or historical writings) can be defined as a science theory.

Science has to do with that which can be observed and tested...neither ideas regarding origins fits that methodology.</description>
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<p>Neither evolution or creation ideas (or historical writings) can be defined as a science theory.</p>
<p>Science has to do with that which can be observed and tested&#8230;neither ideas regarding origins fits that methodology.</p>
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